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  • Sunday, March 26, 2006

    The New Labour Way - Attack and avoidance

    Notes From a Small Bedroom kindly linked to our post on the scandal of Ruth Kelly (The infamous Opus Deist within the Blairite coven) and her £72,000 expenses claim for her mortgage payment, when her mortgage payment was only £20,000.

    A Labourite soldier bravely lept to the prophet Kelly's defence over at the blog, saying:

    I love libertarians who succeed in finding people guilty despite not knowing all the facts, and reserve the right to criticise others as ‘authoritarian’. Pray tell us the details of this ‘corruption, Truth Seeker?

    I naturally had to reply, as, firstly, the Labourite councillor failed to address the point at all, and then decided to go off on their own tangent speaking rather patronisingly (typical of this lot speaking down to people), so I replied:

    Regarding the actual post over at A Logical Voice, where did I declare the Blairite sycophant guilty? Please point it out for me:


    How do you account for the £50,000 gap?

    I’m sure it’s all really just a misunderstanding Piper, nothing to see here, just those nasty “lefties” attempting to smear the good name of the whiter than white Labour Party who could do absolutely nothing wrong, would never stab their own supporters in the back repeatedly, while the stupid fools stand there taking it, and would never condone torture, oh, except if someone else carries it out, and then they can claim anything said as “evidence” in a court ey?

    You should be ashamed of yourself Piper, I have nothing but contempt for you, and your rotten party.

    As you can tell, I don't really like patronising Labourite sycophants who don't like the truth, Piper decided to reply to me, and continue on the falsehoods theme, I pointed out to the fool that he was making rather a lot of assumptions, but they did not cease, from Piper:

    I have to make assumptions when people hide behind ridiculous aliases. Much as you may despise Labour, and much as e may mock your futility, I have to stand up and be counted for my views. As far as I’m concerned, they can take, or leave them. When you stand on your views, be they libertarian Tory, authoritarian Stalinist or loyal to your boots trot, then I might take you seriously. Until then, it’s back to doing whatever it is you do. Errm, nothing!

    And what exactly does "and much as e may mock your futility mean"? I didn't realise "e" was a word. It seems Piper is of the opinion that we should all have nothing to fear from being open, and not "hiding behind ridiculous aliases", of course the councillor probably doesn't knowthe meaning of online privacy, and hasn't heard about wacko nutjobs who troll the internet, there have been plenty of reports about them. It also seems that unless you actually declare yourself as a member of a political party, and remain loyal to them, the fool thinks that you're not standing up for your views, I just had to address this next falsehood, plus, I was in the mood for telling Piper exactly what I thought of his double standards, and of his willingness to put party before anything else:

    How ironic, a Labourite who is repeatedly stabbed in the back like a stupid fool, yet continues to stick with the party regardless (yes, I have read your blog in the past) is giving me a lecture on standing up for your views! Have I not stood up for my views by refusing to pledge my allegiance to party before anything else, and speaking out on issues I believe are important? Look in the mirror Piper, it is yourself who cannot be taken seriously, and your party which is undermining democracy in this country. But how typically New Labourite of you to twist things to suit yourself, something many politicians are good at. Standing for your views? That’s exactly the opposite of what you’re doing Piper, you’re obviously only interested in the power, just like many politicians, and you don’t like the truth do you?

    Piper didn't like the truth, and so, decided to attack once again:

    It’s a strange thing power, isn’t it. All those right wingers, seeking power, oppressing the poor truth seeker. But it is those who put forward their views to the people, the ones who stands on their views, and fall by them if necessary, who are undermining democracy. But the ‘truth seeker’ doesn’t stand. The ridiculous and self-appointed ‘truth seeker’ hides in his bedroom with his keyboared and monitor, and HE is preserving democracy.

    “refusing to pledge my allegiance to party” you say… in your cop out to avoid doing one measely thing for anyone. You are a joke… a self appointed, self important little joke. Get a proper life, why don’t you?

    This was quite obviously a fool of the highest order, not only had he launched an attack on me from the very beginning, preferring to avoid the actual point of the post, he had spent rather a lot of time doing so, and, as I pointed out earlier, Piper does actually have their own blog and seems to spend rather a lot of time trolling the internet. Rather hypocritical of him to say such things really, as well as potentially libellous. But, I got bored, and decied to make a final point by saying:

    Once again a falsehood Piper, I have stood on my principles, and in elections, and you still haven’t addressed the subject of this post, which is that £50,000 gap.

    Typical politician, attack and libel anyone who dares raise questions, and don’t address the subject, but that’s the New Labour way now isn’t it? And you lot are surprised at the so called “apathy” towards you? Your answer to measly turnouts and your party’s lack of a mandate at the general election lies partly with yourself Piper.

    Piper doesn't think i'm willing to "stand up for my views", Piper, quite obviously doesn't know me at all.

    See all recent "A Logical Voice" posts


    At 3/27/2006 02:45:00 pm, Blogger Truth Seeker said...

    Piper, as you can see, from your post being deleted, my warning about nasty little trolls was a promise.

    I have claimed no mandate, yet you decided to attempt to play that card din't you. Shoo troll, go and crawl back under your rock, i'm bored with you.

    At 3/27/2006 04:22:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    Some learn the hard way.

    It's simple boys and girls: don't try to pull off shit here you wouldn't try as a dinner guest at someone's house. We are frankly more than happy to send your precious work/time into the void if you deserve it.

    At 3/27/2006 04:59:00 pm, Blogger Truth Seeker said...

    It certainly is simple djeb, for anyone considering posting here:

    At 3/27/2006 08:46:00 pm, Blogger Truth Seeker said...

    What do you know about truth? You are a member of a party which does everything in their power to stamp on the truth Piper, as I said, go and crawl back under your rock, sycophant troll. Any further posts from you will be deleted. TROLL is the keyword here, look at our posting policy to see why your post has been removed.

    At 3/28/2006 01:07:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Obviously what I said was not clear enough. Do I need to get out sock puppets and explain it to you as if you were a child? It's starting to look that way.

    At 3/28/2006 07:23:00 am, Blogger Bob Piper said...

    This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    At 3/28/2006 08:10:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Which part of the following was beyond your acumen?

    "don't try to pull off shit here you wouldn't try as a dinner guest at someone's house."


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