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  • Monday, February 06, 2006

    "In europe you can be prosecuted for questioning the extent of the holocaust"

    The Media Monitors Network has this very interesting piece, taking a look at "free speech". I wonder, do those who support the right of newspapers to publish those cartoons also support the right of people to make their views known on the holocaust? Both are surely examples of free speech in action, why should one be permitted, and the other outlawed?

    Indeed the only freedom of speech left in the west is bashing Islam otherwise it does have its limits. In Europe you can be prosecuted for questioning the extant of the Holocaust or criticizing Israel’s policy given western indoctrination that such “freedom” is Anti-Semitic.” Israel and its bloody history is now the “Holy Grail” for the civilized west, the champions of human rights. Being civilized begins with education and manifests in rational behavior. The rampant ignorance of Islam in Europe leads to an irrational fear and thus prejudice. Descartes would turn in his grave if he knows that his motto has been transformed into “I don’t think, therefore I’m civilized.”
    Also, maybe you remember the uproar over those photos of prince Harry wearing a Nazi costume at a fancy dress party? There were even calls from the Wiesenthal Centre in America that Harry should visit Auschwitz, in order to "atone for his sins". Should perhaps the illustrators behind these cartoons be forced to visit Fallujah, where the Americans used white phosphorous in a civilian area to atone for their sins? See all recent "A Logical Voice" posts


    At 2/06/2006 11:56:00 pm, Blogger Jez said...

    This is why the whole debate is so complex, particularly here in France.
    While the real question should simply be about respect as you have said regarding the motives of a right-wing paper in Denmark, it has become a debate about freedom of expression, because we have laws which make it a sanctionable offence to have an opinion which can be construed as racist or anti-semitic. And, as you point out, questioning the Holocaust is defined as being anti-semitic. Furthermore, questioning the Israeli government's terrorist tactics is also construed as being anti-semitic. Just as jews are not all Israelis, muslims are not all fundamentalists, nor are they all particularly practicing. Just as many jews oppose a jewish state, many muslims oppose an islamic state. Therefore, just as criticising Israel is not necessarily anti-semitic, one should not blame Islam and muslims for the fanaticism of a few.

    At 2/07/2006 01:06:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Indeed, a cartoon showing Jews morphing into Nazis would certainly be stiffled in Europe (or one that denies there was ever a holocaust).

    These days you have to get the enemy right. Jews are so 60-years-ago. Muslims are the new Jews and they are the ones to bash.

    Of course the real heart of the problem was hit on by Jez: "right-wing paper". That says it all.

    At 2/07/2006 02:04:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    I just had a thought. Hows about Europe keeps its "free speech" (quotes very needed when they have proved that they don't even understand the concept) and the Middle East keeps its oil? Sounds fair to me.

    At 2/07/2006 10:40:00 am, Blogger Truth Seeker said...

    Yes Jez, I would certainly agree with your conclusion that people should not lash out at all Muslims, and Islam in general over the actions of a few. As i've said, however, sadly, the cartoons created the reaction they were meant to, in myopinion.

    DJEB, indeed, right wing paper does say everything, and as you know, I would certainly agree with the point about the middle east keeping its oil.


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