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  • Tuesday, August 30, 2005

    We dreamed up "Al Qaeda", let's not do it again with "evil ideology"

    The Guardian has this very worthwhile piece, by Adam Curtis, the writer and producer of "The Power of Nightmares":

    Modern Islamism is a complex political movement with a history that goes back more than 50 years. Its most influential ideologist was an Egyptian school inspector, Sayyid Qutb. In the 50s he wrote a series of books that put forward a powerful critique of modern western culture and democracy, and called for a new type of utopian society in Muslim lands in which Islam would play a central political role. Out of this has come a movement for revolutionary change in the Islamic world that includes an extraordinary range of groupings and variations on Qutb's original arguments. It is only a tiny minority in the Islamist movement who have developed these ideas into a politics that advocates terrorism against the west. Historians of Islamism have shown that this minority, grouped initially around Osama bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri in the late 90s, turned to attacking the west only because of the failure of the wider movement to achieve its revolutionary aims in the Muslim world.
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    4 Comments:

    At 8/30/2005 03:58:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    "...this minority, grouped initially around Osama bin Laden and Ayman Zawahiri in the late 90s, turned to attacking the west only because of the failure of the wider movement to achieve its revolutionary aims in the Muslim world."

    I disagree. Look at all the suicide attacks in the modern era, Islamist or not and they all have one commonality: they are all aimed at getting a democratic nation to end its occupation of what the suicide attackers perceive as their homeland.

     
    At 8/30/2005 04:10:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Well, I would certainly agree that "the database" aims are political djeb. As to going further into this particular aspect, I can't really make my mind up.

     
    At 8/30/2005 08:23:00 pm, Blogger ringverse said...

    The idea of Islamic movements being exclusively 'anti western' is simply a media view that government here and across the water constantly feeds us. It suits them, and provides a convenient soundbite.

    There as been more bloodshed in the fight between Nationalist secular states and islamic organisations in the arab world than we have suffered in the west.

    We continually hear the line that Saddam would have armed al queda with WMD, but the History of Baathists and fundementalists has been one of conflict, not cooperation.

    Looking just over the border in Syria, we can learn a little of how the two groups get on.
    Daddy Aasad, Saddam's fellow Baathist, had his own way of dealing with an uprising of the Muslim Brotherhood. See the massacre of 40,000+ people in Hama 1982 as part of his fight against the islamists.

    Not to mention the history of Egyptian, Saudi and Algerian politcs to name just three.

    We are not a target because fanatics with an evil ideology hate our way of life and want to turn the world into a Sharia state.
    We are a target because of our historical and current involvement in and manipulation of local politics.

    This is about poltics, not religion.
    blairwatch

     
    At 8/31/2005 12:06:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Agreed, Ringverse. There are the points you make as well as the target selection made by Islamic terrorist organisations.

    I don't hear too often that Saddam would have armed al Qaeda, though, because even most war supporters know that is poppycock.

     

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