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  • Saturday, June 25, 2005

    Musharraf goes off message on Bin Laden

    According to this article, from today's Guardian, Pervez Musharraf has claimed that Bin Laden's whereabouts are unknown. Only the other day the CIA were claiming they knew exactly where Bin Laden is. Perhaps they should talk more and get their stories right:

    Musharraf - who abandoned support of Afghanistan's former Taliban regime after the Sept. 11 attacks - spoke with Afghan President Hamid Karzai twice this week. Musharraf would only say that ``a small difference of opinion was discussed and resolved.'' Last week, Karzai spokesman Jawed Ludin said Islamabad was not doing enough to fight the militants, adding that there would never be peace in Afghanistan until the two nations ``join hands together to fight terrorism.''
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    At 6/25/2005 03:58:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Musharraf know where Bin Laden is, despite his comments, and George Bush knows where he is. Pakistan is run by the ISI, they set up the Taliban, and supported Bin Laden whilst in Afghanistan, from where he conveniently jumped the border into Pakistan, and to safety. The ISI was set up, and is still a puppett of, the CIA. Bin Laden will be safe for many moons to come yet, he is being harboured by those that 'hunt' him, Bush and Bin Laden are like two Vampires sucking off each others blood, they need each other to survive, and so they will survive.

    At 6/25/2005 05:41:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Personally, as i've said in the past, I think Bin Laden is dead. And the timing of that Bin Laden video just before the US election seemed rather too convenient.

    At 6/25/2005 06:08:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    "Musharraf know where Bin Laden is, despite his comments, and George Bush knows where he is."

    And you know this because?

    We shouldn't focus too strongly on just the ISI - they had plenty of held from Carter, Reagan and the CIA (as you mention).

    Q: The former director of the CIA, Robert Gates, stated in his memoirs [From the Shadows] that American intelligence services began to aid the Mujahidin in Afghanistan 6 months before the Soviet intervention. In this period, you were the national security advisor to President Carter. You therefore played a role in this affair. Is that corect?

    Brzezinski: Yes. According to the official version of history, CIA aid to the Mujahidin began during 1980, that is to say, after the Soviet army invaded Afghanistan, 24 Dec. 1979. But the reality, secretly guarded until now, is completely otherwise: Indeed, it was 3 July 1979 that President Carter signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. And that very day, I wrote a note to the president in which I explained to him that in my opinion this aid was going to induce a Soviet military intervention.

    [Asked if he regreted this action] Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam War. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.
    - Zbigniew Brzezinski in1998 interview with Le Nouvel Observateur

    Probably the most subversive effect of the privatized jihad was on the madrassahs, many of which were turned into politico-military training schools. The point was to integrate guerrilla training with the teachings of Islam and thus create "Islamic guerrillas." The London-based Indian journalist Dilip Hiro commented in the curriculum of the madrassahs: "Predominant themes were that Islam was a complete sociopolitical ideology, that holy Islam was being violated by atheistic Soviet troops, and that the Islamic people of Afghanistan should reassert their independence by overthrowing the leftist Afghan regime propped up by Moscow." The madrassahs not only opened their doors to Islamic radicals from around the world but also taught that the Islamic revolution in Afghanistan would be but a precursor to revolution in other Muslim-majority countries, particularly those in Soviet Central Asia.
    'The skills passed on by trainers to fighters included "the use of sophisticated fuses, timers and explosives; automatic weapons with armor-piercing ammunition, remote-control devices for triggering mines and bombs (used later in the volunteers' home countries, and against the Israelis in occupied Arab territory such as southern Lebanon). [Mamdani quoting John Cooley in Unholy Wars]"


    [A] team of Los Angeles Times reporters who carried out an investigation [in 1996] into the aftermath of the Afghan War "over four continents" found that the key leaders of every major terrorist attack, from New York to France to Saudi Arabia, inevitably turned out to have been veterans of the Afghan War.
    - Mamood Mamdani in Good Muslim Bad Muslim: America, The Cold War, And The Roots of Terror, p.136 - 139


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