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  • Thursday, June 23, 2005

    Migrants bring benefits to Britain

    From today's Independent: Migrants 'bring more benefits than costs' to Britain

    The IOM cites a British report showing that between 1999 and 2000 migrants in the UK contributed $4bn (£2.1bn) more in taxes than they received in benefits. An increasing number of migrants are moving temporarily - rather than permanently - so there is potential for "brain circulation" or "brain gain", rather than "brain drain". Contrary to the perception that migrants take jobs from local workers, the report says that they tend to fill spaces at the poles of the labour market - working both in low-skilled, high-risk jobs and highly skilled, well-paid employment. They also make a significant contribution to the economies of their home states, the report says, with returning cash flows sometimes exceeding official development aid.
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    13 Comments:

    At 6/23/2005 01:01:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Money is not everything.
    The cultural issues are also important as they affect assimilation.

     
    At 6/24/2005 12:29:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    There is no chance that at current rates of immigration (or even double the current rate) British culture is at any risk whatsoever of being submerged.

     
    At 6/24/2005 04:21:00 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Glad you think so tho' to visit some parts of the UK one could be forgiven for thinking otherwise.

     
    At 6/24/2005 10:29:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Seeing a neighbourhood with a lot of coloured folks does not mean that British culture is going to disappear in Britain or even become a minority culture in Britain.

     
    At 6/24/2005 04:12:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Who said anything about coloured folks ?
    Immigrants are having an effect as Blair's incessant sucking-up to the muslims demonstrates.

     
    At 6/24/2005 11:09:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    Who said anything about coloured folks? The right-wing poster a few months ago who said that he had no problem with eliminating all non-white immigrants into Britain would be one example. Furthermore, if you have a look at the history of Britain's immigration law (they are laid out in Michael Dummett's book On Immigration and Refugees) you with see that the past laws have favoured white immigrants over coloured folks.

    Your second sentence is unclear to the point of holding to meaning for me. Care to clarify? Are you actually claiming that British culture is at risk of being submerged?

     
    At 6/24/2005 11:54:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    "you with see that the past laws have favoured white immigrants over coloured folks.
    "

    Good, UK is basically a white country.

     
    At 6/25/2005 05:55:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    And why on Earth is that good? I'd love to hear the explanation for that one. It won't be racist, it will be... wait a minute, I'll get it... It will be... OK, it'll be racist.

     
    At 6/25/2005 09:16:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Is it bad that the UK is still mainly white? What do you think the predominant racial and cultural group(s) in the UK should be? Indeed, why are you anti-white?

     
    At 6/26/2005 02:06:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Why are you avoiding the question? Why on Earth would it be good if the UK were mainly white? Why is it important that the average per capita melanin count be low in Britain?

    And were in all of my writing all over the net have I ever said anything that could ever be construed by anyone with even the slightest bit of sense as anti-white let alone anti- any race?

    Finally, I have no preference what the predominant race in Britain, or any other country is as long as no cultures are submerged and human rights are protected. It's not a thing I waste my time thinking about.

     
    At 6/26/2005 02:19:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Africa, with its arbtrarily drawn borders creating various ethnic and linguistic majority/minority 'countries': Yugoslavia blowing itself apart: the convulsions within the former Soviet Union; all of these cases and many more demonstrate that nation states with a clearly defined majority culture and race works far better, and provides for protection of assimilated or complementary minorities than the explosive multi-culti systems advocated by the Left - intended to destroy from within the 'bourgeois' democracies given the failure of the marxist program to do so.
    As an inversion of the norm, would you say that South Africa is too black and that the melanin count there should be reduced? How about Korea - too asiatic perhaps?

     
    At 6/26/2005 05:06:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    Africa? It is basically one race excluding the north. The problems it has seem have had tremendous help from European colonialisation - Rwanda being a perfect example of this.

    Yugoslavia? There are different races there attacking each other? It's the Asians and the blacks there, is it? No, it is the continuation of old fights; and furthermore is the result of the collapse of a regime that strictly held everyone together.

    The convulsions of the former USSR? You mean Chechnya. Russia let most of its states go if they wanted, but not Chechnya - the prize is too great. Oh, and the conflict there involves white folk.

    "multi-culti systems advocated by the Left - intended to destroy from within the 'bourgeois' democracies given the failure of the marxist program to do so."

    Wow, another conspiracy theorist. As an aside, you don't believe like Allan does that Mexico is trying to take over the U.S., do you?

    "As an inversion of the norm, would you say that South Africa is too black and that the melanin count there should be reduced? How about Korea - too asiatic perhaps?"

    Had you bothered to read my post, you wouldn't have asked that, would you. Try scrolling up and reading it. Furthermore, you are including a straw man fallacy in your post for good measure. I never made the claim that Britain was too white, too black, too Asian or too anything. What I did was ask why on Earth it is "Good" that "UK is basically a white country." I havent gotten an anser on that one yet. I've gotten references to wars in territories of collapsed empires, but Britain is not an artificially created territory of a former empire. I've gotten a conspiracy theory and I've gotten an assertion. I am still waiting on an answer, though.

     
    At 6/27/2005 04:14:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    I feel like David Byrne...

     

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