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    US rejects Venezuelan extradition request for terrorist

    Remember the time immediately before Afghanistan was invaded? The Bush regime were stating that the taliban should hand over Bin Laden or face invasion, well, the US have apparently rejected a request by Venezuela to turn over a terrorist wanted there. Double standards by the US? Surely not!

    Posada, a foe of Cuban President Fidel Castro, is wanted by Venezuelan authorities for his alleged role in the bombing of a Cuban passenger plane in 1976 that killed 73 people. The United States and Venezuela have had a strained relationship recently, with disagreements including the U.S. war in Iraq and Venezuela's decision to buy Russian assault rifles. Earlier this month, Venezuela asked the United States to arrest Posada as an initial step toward his eventual extradition there. Days after the request was received, U.S. authorities detained Posada on their own and charged him with illegal entry into the United States.
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    At 5/29/2005 02:38:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    Could they get away with this in Sept. 2001? Well... They might have. A compliant press let the U.S. get away with the fact that it was demanding the extradition of bin Laden without any solid proof of guilt in the terror attacks of 9/11. The very same press dutifully refused to report the fact that Haiti renewed its request of extradition of terrorist Emmanuel Constant (right-wings currently scrambling for a search engine) at the the same time that the U.S. was demanding extradition of bin Laden. The outcome, of course being that the U.S.ignored the Haitian requests and bombed Afghanistan for requesting some proof of guilt then offering to send to bin Laden to any third country (I'll ignore the fact that Pakistan's ISI said they knew where OBL was and offered to go in and get him, but the U.S. response was not to do so).

    But then again, such historical facts would only be a shock to those who believe states to be morally guided entities.

    At 5/29/2005 04:08:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Indeed, djeb, as we should all be aware, states are not morally guided.

    A fact both of us have attempted, at least to get across on numerous occasions.

    At 5/30/2005 12:36:00 am, Anonymous John said...

    Chavez is taking the initiative on this. The treaty gives the US 60 days to comply. If they do not comply Chavez may well break off diplomatic relations. He has mused on air about seeing if there is any point spending money on an embassy in Wahington.
    Bush has totally mishandled this. What has Chavez got to lose? What, realistically, can Washington do that it did not plan to do, or indeed had already done, before?
    For bush the timing is terrible.

    At 5/30/2005 01:28:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Voice said, "A fact both of us have attempted, at least to get across on numerous occasions."

    Attempted and failed. I blame myself for not explaining it in sock-puppet mode.

    John, you figure Venezuela is going to launch a massive airstrike against the U.S. a la Enduring Freedom?

    At 5/30/2005 12:02:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Thanks for the comment John, Well, Syria has already stopped cooperating with the US, so I could certainly see Venezuela taking similar steps.

    Don't blame yourself djeb, we are all aware of the mentality of some people.

    At 5/31/2005 06:10:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    He's been tried and acquitted more than once and is invloved in a charge against him in US, so why should he be extradited right now ?
    Read the whole article:
    "The Justice Department ruled that the Venezuelan arrest request ``did not include any statement of the evidence against the accused required for the issuance of an arrest warrant in the United States,'' an administration official said. so you advocate extraditing someone on a simple request ?

    Chavez is just playing to the gallery, big surprise.

    At 5/31/2005 10:54:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    There's a good one. The known terrorist is not a terrorist and is not wanted overseas for crimes he has committed (often with the cooperation of the U.S.). Right.

    Weak. Very weak.

    "The Justice Department ruled that the Venezuelan arrest request ``did not include any statement of the evidence against the accused required for the issuance of an arrest warrant in the United States,'' an administration official said.

    So all evidence is rendered into no evidence. Lovely. Funny, I remember that the U.S. demanded the extradition of Osama bin Laden when they actually did not have evidence linking him to 9/11. The Taliban said they would, if evidence was presented. The response is, of course, history. If only Venezuela could response the same way.

    At 6/01/2005 12:23:00 am, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    As you say yourself, if you desire the extradition of someone it's required that good reason/evidence is presented with the request. The US didn't do that with OBL & Taleban, Venezuela hasn't done it with this one. Both were properly refused.

    Again, Chavez is shooting off his mouth (he ought to remove his foot first).

    At 6/02/2005 02:55:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    Venezuela hasn't done this according to the official statement of the U.S. government, which is looking for an excuse not to extradite their terrorist. Before the U.S. received request from Venezuela, it made a press statement that it had no intention of extraditing Posada. Are we now to be surprised when the U.S. government, which has repeatedly lied on a myriad of occassions, claims that there was no evidence to warrant his extradition? Be serious. There is plenty of evidence against Posada including his own confessions. It may very well be that you want him to be innnocent, but that's just not the way it is. He's guilty like Bosch and Constant who are both harboured by the U.S. Not releasing their own terrorist is damage control.

    And I say again, if Venezuela were to behave link the U.S., they would bomb the country into rubble.


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