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  • Monday, February 28, 2005

    Reality of army turns idealist into a deserter

    Well done Jeremiah Adler: Reality of Army turns idealist into a deserter

    "I didn't want to be the average infantryman, the average grunt," says Adler, now 18. He wanted to make a difference, he says, not only to the Iraqis he hoped to help liberate, but to the military itself. But only hours after arriving for basic training at Fort Benning, Ga., he had a change of heart. The Army, he says, wanted to turn him into "a ruthless, coldblooded killer," and he wanted no part of it. He begged to be sent home, even faking a homosexual relationship with another recruit who also wanted out. The drill sergeants screamed their disgust at him, Adler says, but wouldn't sign discharge papers.
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    At 2/28/2005 05:10:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Jeremiah Adler clearly wasn't suited to being a soldier. I know some soldiers and they're not cold-blooded killers. Bit over-dramatic.


    At 2/28/2005 05:41:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    I guess it depends on what your definition of a "cold blooded killer" is Allan. And I know not all those who work in the armed forces are cold blooded killers, but certainly those sent into battle are trained to be "professional" in their service.

    At 3/01/2005 02:31:00 am, Blogger DJEB said...

    They are actually trained to be cold-blooded killers. After WWII, the Pentagon was horrified to learn that, according to interviews with soldiers, that many men discharged their weapons but did so while deliberately aiming to miss. As a result, they changed the way they trained soldiers. They tried to train them so that orders to kill were killed out automatically without thought. I do know an American man who was a bayonet instructor and who fought in the Korean War. He claims that he was told to train troops to stab with the bayonet with a big smile on their face.

    All this is relevant because it shows how the Pentagon did not want any "warm-blooded" killers. They want their soldiers to kill without doubt and without remorse and they try to train them to do that.

    At 3/01/2005 08:26:00 am, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    I suppose it would be ridiculous to assume that any troops sent into combat weren't trained to be "cold blooded" wouldn't it really.

    At 3/01/2005 04:15:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Pentagon did not want any "warm-blooded" killers. They want their soldiers to kill without doubt and without remorse and they try to train them to do that.
    I suspect any professional army trains the same way, it'd be pretty unworkable if every soldier could decide what to obey.
    Sounds like this guy couldn't take even a few hours of boot camp & wanted out rather than try and change/challenge himself. Good riddance.

    At 3/02/2005 09:25:00 am, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Anonymous, I suspect the army should train their recruits that under law they are only obliged to follow legal orders.

    At 3/02/2005 05:30:00 pm, Blogger DJEB said...

    Sounds like he had a conscience and decided he wanted out.

    At 3/03/2005 09:06:00 am, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Indeed, it certainly seems that way, and as i've mentioned in the past, those who have actually served in conflict zones certainly appear to be more sympathetic to the pro peace movement, than those armchair generals who view "shock and awe" like some sort of firework display.


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