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  • Friday, January 07, 2005

    The post tsunami world

    After the terrible events of the 11th September 2001, the Bush regime cried out for blood, even though the attacks that day, and the deaths which followed were preventable, as the head of the committee responsible for investigating those events has said. But the tragedy which struck Indian Ocean nations on the 26th December 2004 was not preventable, no one could have imagined the scale of human suffering, of devastation, of the millions of people displaced, without food, water or shelter. There are reports that the death toll is increasing now over the 150,000 mark, and the people of the world responded instantly to the scale of the tragedy, even though their governments did not. Following those dreadful events of the 26/12/04, the world cried out for compassion, and social justice. Of course you can't blame humans for a natural disaster such as this. Now, the people of the world must continue to call for social justice, and compassion. In Africa, tragedy, and human suffering is happening every day, although those affected are not on our television screens every day, that does not mean they do not exist. The world has an opportunity to help those desparately in need, not by dropping bombs, and killing hundreds of thousands of innocents unnecessarily, but by pledging to do something for those less fortunate, those suffering real tragedies every day.


    At 1/07/2005 12:07:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    The world has an opportunity to help those desparately in need, not by dropping bombs, and killing hundreds of thousands of innocents unnecessarily, but by pledging to do something for those less fortunate, those suffering real tragedies every day.


    Not a darn thing will get accomplished by pledging to do anything. Accomplishments come through action. Bush and Blair have freed 50 million people through direct action. Not promising to do something and feeling sorry for those poor oppressed Iraqis and Afganis.

    Furthermore, they had the balls to do it spite of opposition by countries that were profiting from the arrangement.

    By the way, what have you done to ease suffering in the world? Feel sorry for people? Donate money, so that others can do the work for you? Or just piss and moan on a blog?

    At 1/07/2005 12:38:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Diplomad drops a steaming Turd

    check it out http://diplomadic.blogspot.com/

    At 1/07/2005 12:43:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Considering you know absolutely nothing about me, you're making a fairly big assumption.

    In my humble opinion, and experiences, those who have actually assisted in charitable and voluntary work the most don't go around boasting of the fact merely for vanity reasons.

    Make what you will of that, personally I don't care about what you think of me, but to use a post about assisting those in the most need of help, and try to turn it into a personal attack is in my opinion quite disturbing, obviously no compassion from you then.

    At 1/07/2005 01:33:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    An attack? An attack.

    I merely asked a couple questions, challenging your misguided, liberal thinking (actually, not thinking as much as feeling). Apparently I struck a nerve.

    Since you asked, I can gather quite a bit about you.

    Good people who do good deeds don't run around bashing others who do good deeds. That is an iron-clad fact of life that you can take to the bank.

    Good people don't look at Iraq and Afganistan and think that the people were better off with a boot on their neck. Good people pray that Democracy takes hold and spreads throughout the region.

    Good people don't look and Bush and Blair and have more contempt for them than they have for thugs, terrorists, and criminals.

    Good people don't say that the world has a chance to help less fortunate people. Good people help those who are less fortunate.

    And for the record, I am not calling you a bad person. I think you are misguided. I want to challenge your thinking.

    Less hatred for good men like Bush and Blair and more contempt for Baathists and Taliban thugs who terrorized and slaughtered their populations for decades is a good place to start.

    After that let us join together and be good people.

    Let's send thank-you letters to our national leaders and thank them for the political risk they took to do the right thing in the face of intense opposition.

    Let us send letters to Kofi Annan and ask him to donate a small portion of the millions that he got in kick-backs from the oil-for-food program to the tsunami victims. (Excuse me, it wasn't him, it was his son.)

    Let us agree that the French need to take their stupid little hats and stop undermining British and American security concerns.

    Then we will be on the road to a better, brighter world.

    Hope we can be friends. If not that's okay too.

    At 1/07/2005 01:39:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    When both Bush and Blair stop stooping to the level of criminals and terrorists, then I will stop bashing them. They have been the ones to claim they are "civilised", they must prove without any doubt they are the "civilised". I'm sure the same thing is felt by millions around the world.

    At 1/07/2005 03:27:00 pm, Blogger Marc said...

    " I'm sure the same thing is felt by millions around the world."

    And many more millions feel the exact opposite. A good example is Bush's re-election by the largest margin in US history. The large coailition working with the US in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    You offer only complaints and no answers, just as most anti-war types do.

    History has shown over and over again that merely throwing money at a problem will not solve it.

    The UN stood by in Rawanda and let 800,000 innocent people get murdered; Kofi Annan was in charge then.

    The UN stood by while Saddam murdered millions; Kofi Annan was and is in charge.

    The UN stood by while France, Russia and China were bribed with Iraqi oil for food money that resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqis; Kofi Annan was in charge. And remember, before we uncovered the oil for food scandal, you anti-war types aided by the liberal press, screamed bloody murder that these deaths were the fault of the US. We've yet to hear your apology.

    The tsunami disaster is almost two weeks old and the UN is still just setting up shop; Kofi Annan is in charge.

    No one wants war and contrary to your notions, that includes America. We all want peace. But we can't stand by and let these things happen. And unfortuantely the bad guys are not going to just go away because we say please. Hitler should have taught you that.

    At 1/07/2005 03:36:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    You still haven't answered the point Marc, Bush and Blair claim to be the "civilised", yet they stoop to the level of criminals. Any comment?

    And on Hitler, as i've said in the past, the so called "war on terror", or the illegal invasion of Iraq cannot be compared to World War 2. Those who attempt to do so are on shaky ground.

    At 1/07/2005 04:17:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    You are right...we can't compare World War II with the War on Terror. The War on Terror is far more dangerous than ANOTHER European conflict. Last time I checked...Hitler didn't bomb Pearl Harbor, it was Japan, so I guess when we helped you stay alive in the 1940's, that was "illegal" as well???

    Interesting to note that last week you were blaming the high death toll in Asia on America when it suited your arguments, yet this week you are saying that "it was not preventable" and "no one could have imagined....". Are you sure man.....I bet it was preventable, Bush and Blair just sit on the information at the behest of councilor Gonzalez because there is nothing legally binding the president to release the information, Rumsfeld, Perle, Armitage, Powell and Rice all were in cahoots with them. It is all a grand strategy of global hegemony and the main stream press kept it all quiet. See...I've been taking notes...I think like you too!

    At 1/07/2005 04:54:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Because you helped out over 60 years ago (about 2 years late by the way, though I wasn't going to say anything until you brought it up), the British should be eternally grateful, and should assist in any unnecessary project? I don't think so.

    As for the tsunami, i've actually just made the point on another thread, as I thought it was you posting there that because I have rightly stated that there was a warning given to the Diego Garcia base 1 hour before the tsunami struck, takes nothing away from the fact that it was a natural disaster, and was not preventable. I never said the actual tsunami was either preventable, or that it was not natural.

    At 1/07/2005 05:58:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    you said last week that the American's increased the number of casualties because we knew and said nothing, which you are saying again, here. then you switch and say it was natural and unavoidable. which is it? did the Dubbwa kill all those Asians or not? make up you mind.

    At 1/07/2005 06:23:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Surely you can understand the facts? The tsunami itself was both a natural tragedy, and unavoidable, however, the fact that the US State department and Diego Garci were given warnings, then that means there is certainly evidence to show that just because there is no warning system in place does not mean other forms of communication aren't in place to try every means possible to contact those responsible to organise evacuations.

    Isn't that simple enough for you? Would you like me to repeat it for you, only a little slower?

    At 1/07/2005 06:45:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Europe mulls joint military help for Asia crisis
    Document Actions while thousands die


    Belgium has proposed that Europe's five-nation Eurocorps provide military aid to victims of south Asia's tsunami disaster, possibly involving other European states too, officials said Thursday.

    Defence Minister Andre Flahaut is seeking support for such action from France, Germany, Luxembourg and Spain, its partners in Europe's fledgling armed force, said a ministry spokesman.

    Flahaut "has made contact with his .. counterparts to discuss organizing military support" to help the millions of survivors of December 26 killer waves which have left over 146,000 people dead, he said.

    "The plan is to provide military aid at a European level and to find synergies involving transport of people and equipment," added spokesman Gerard Harveng, confirming a report in the Spanish press.

    The German defence ministry said it was studying the proposal "on the basis of the availability" of forces, but noted that Eurocorps is heavily engaged in leading the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.

    "Of course our priority remains fulfilling individual (military) missions, and we had not planned to expand our commitment in the region affected by the catastrophe," said a German defence ministry spokesman.

    Eurocorps is made up of detachments from its five member states. Created in 1992 by France and Germany, it was later put at the service of the European Union and is certified as a NATO rapid reaction force.

    The Belgian proposal was made at the start of the week, and discussions are ongoing. "Countries are interested. Everyone wants to contribute its stone to the building, and to do so in a coordinated way," he added.

    For example one way this could be done would be to integrate Belgian military doctors with a German armed force in Indonesia, he said.

    "The aim was to start with countries which are used to working with each other militarily, which does not exclude other participants" from Europe, he said.

    The European Union (EU) has long struggled to beef up its joint armed wing, amid persistant resistance from key member states to share control over military forces.

    A spokesman for EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana said this week that one reason the United States had such a high profile in responding to the Asia crisis was because it had huge military resources available.

    At 1/07/2005 07:28:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    How very nice....the Europeans want to do something other than sit back and wait for anyone else to do all the heavy lifting...then critize them for it. What prompted this change in strategy I wonder. Why wouldn't they just let their beloved UN handle it? They can fix everything else.


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