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  • Thursday, December 30, 2004

    Shame on Bush and Blair for their stingy donations

    UPDATE - Britain now pledges £50 million towards relief effort. Well, when praise is due I will give it, well done Blair for this more than trebling in Britain's pledge towards the victims, that's more like it. Now, please withdraw our troops from Iraq. The unnecessary and illegal invasion of Iraq has, so far cost the US approximately $147 billion, while Gordon Brown, the British chancellor announced only this month an additional £520 million of British traxpayers money will be spent on the pointless project. Now a real tragedy has occurred, the tsunami in Asia has so far claimed the lives of approximately 120,000 people, (that is only the confirmed figure so far) and what respect do Bush and Blair give to this necessary effort to assist millions of people left without homes, food, clean water, necessary sanitary conditions and their livelihoods and many of their families destroyed? Bush donates a measly $35 million, while Blair gives a stingy £15 million. And, yes, compared to the amounts they are willing to spend on their unjustifiable and illegal invasion of Iraq, those amounts are very stingy. They should be ashamed. Is it any wonder there is such hatred in the world towards our so called "civilised societies", when our leaders slap real victims of tragedies in the face like this? The people in these countries, which have fallen victim to a tragedy far greater than any seen in our life times must surely notice that our leaders priorities are backwards in nature? And not only that, Blair could not even be bothered to return home from his holiday to help coordinate the British relief effort, while the torturer in chief has spent his time at his Texas ranch. (Most likely in hiding following the revelation that he signed an Executive Order authorising torture)

    9 Comments:

    At 12/30/2004 05:37:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Kinell! What would satisfy you? Really? Should the UK Government pledge a billion quid upfront, four days on, with no strategic assessment of what is needed? That would be criticised, correctly, as grandstanding. And what's all this about coming back from holiday? This is just pointless Tory propaganda. Bah!

    (Nae offence, like - I wandered in here from NewsNow)

     
    At 12/30/2004 05:49:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Hello, thanks for calling in, no I definitely cannot be described as a Tory, if you take a look at some of my earlier messages, you'll see I have a special disgust of Tories, and just as much as I do not like their policies, neither do I like these New Labour policies either. :)

    On the issue of grandstanding, I do understand what you're saying, my point really, however is that our leaders priorities are all back to front.

     
    At 12/30/2004 05:51:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    More mass graves found in Iraq!
    American people donate Millions besides what the governments of the world donate.
    I think you are misinformed.

     
    At 12/30/2004 06:16:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    I wasn't talking about the people in our countries, I was talking about the leaders, the 2 are a different thing, if you don't understand the difference, then it is yourself who is misinformed.
    regards.

     
    At 12/30/2004 06:22:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Hi there - I'd beter say the anonymous coward above is a different anonymous coward from me, the one who posted first.

    Now I know you're not a Tory! The point is that you're making the same point as the Tories are - see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ linked from NewsNow "Prime Minister Tony Blair is facing calls to cut short his holiday to deal with the Asian tsunami disaster. Tory vice-chairman Nigel Evans said Mr Blair should fly home now to co-ordinate the British response."

    Anyway, back to my point. Isn't it a cheap point to moan about the PM going on holiday? I think it is very cheap for the Tories to attack on this, and I'm not sure how your comments are much diferent. You're probably aware that the past year has been really difficult for his family. Whatever you think about the Government's policy, they surely don't need people trying to make them feel guilty for taking a break.

    Aren't we lefties supposed to be better than that? Attack the policy, if you must, not the person and certainly not his family.

     
    At 12/30/2004 06:47:00 pm, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Thanks for your response, I honestly can say that I was not attacking Blair's family, it is Blair's judgement (which is an important factor for a Prime Minister) I was attacking.

    Although, I do have to admit, I hadn't read that Daily Mail article, thank you for that, if I'd have known they said that, then I probably would not have made a similar point, however, my point was not just based on petty party political point scoring. (as it is obvious the Tories point was)

    I've explained more at http://logicvoice.blogspot.com/2004/12/blair-continues-with-his-holiday.html#110442773527847715 if you'd like to take a look.

    Regards

     
    At 12/30/2004 07:06:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Thanks for that gracious response. I think that one reason why so many people are put off representative and electoral politics is that they see it as adversarial ad hominem abuse, not an exchange of ideas.

    We need to guard against this - sometimes very difficult on the left where so much of what passes as debate is just slogans and personal abuse. If we're tempted to make the kind of point a Tory might say - just say no!

     
    At 12/30/2004 07:10:00 pm, Anonymous Anonymous said...

    Thanks for that gracious response. I think that one reason why so many people are put off representative and electoral politics is that they see it as adversarial ad hominem abuse, not an exchange of ideas.

    We need to guard against this - sometimes very difficult on the left where so much of what passes as debate is just slogans and personal abuse. If we're tempted to make the kind of point a Tory might say - just say no!

     
    At 12/31/2004 11:41:00 am, Blogger Voice 1 said...

    Yes, I do see what you mean, however, it is sometimes difficult "exchanging ideas" with people who are unwilling to debate those ideas and stick stubbornly to a point of view which has been proved wrong. You've probably encountered this yourself.

     

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